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Posted Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:05 PM

Behind the Scarlet 'C', Continued: In Which Xbox Live General Manager Marc Whitten Answers Some Follow-Ups About Punishing Gamerscore Cheats

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After we got our answers back from Xbox Live general manager Marc Whitten regarding its newly announced punishment for people determine to be cheating its Gamerscore and Achievement Point systems (but before we saw your comments on the previous post), we saw a couple of areas that still hadn't been clarified to our satisfaction. So we whipped up a couple of additional questions and shot them over to Whitten via Microsoft's PR agency. Here's what Whitten told us in response to our follow-ups.

How long is the period of time during which Microsoft will affix the label of "cheater" to offending Xbox Live members?

We intend to remove the label over time, although the original achievements will remain reset. We don’t have a specific time frame that we are detailing right now. In the end, it is up to the individual player to prove that they won’t do it again.

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Is the rescindment of Achievement Points done on a per-achievement basis or a per-game basis? In other words, if someone cheated their way through half of the campaign of Halo 3, but never finished the game before your punishment was handed down, can he or she complete the rest of the game fairly and still receive the corresponding Achievement Points for the second half of the game? If not, why not?

Per achievement. If a gamer is found to be cheating, we will erase their entire gamerscore and they will be unable to regain all previously earned achievements. Those members will still be allowed to legitimately gain future achievements they had not previously unlocked, including from games where they were found to be cheating.

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So there you have it. Those wearing the Scarlet "C"--once the judge-jury-executioners at Xbox Live have determined that the offenders have sufficiently redeemed themselves by going forth and sinning no more--will at some unspecified point in the future have the Mark of Shame removed, allowing them to fully rejoin the community of man. Furthermore, said punishment is on a per achievement basis, meaning that those cheaters who haven't yet unlocked the Frequent Flyer achievement in Superman Returns should acquire a rubber band, stat.
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Posted By: factory (March 28, 2008 at 9:54 AM)

i have a question. who cares?..if u are that much of an an achievement whore that u need to cheat or steal the points, then u have some serious issues that can't be dealt with by being labeled anything.the points can be fun in the right context, but i know too many people who rent games with easy points and it cheapens the experience altogether for everyone.i liked the idea at first, but now i wish they wouldn't have created the system at all.anyone who played the avatar game to get the points should be branded on live as  well... with a huge L


Posted By: 10rd Ben (March 27, 2008 at 8:13 AM)

I wonder if MSoft have considered the possibility that this could actually be *counter*-productive... they are GIVING AWAY a free /ultimate gamer score/ that says "I can hax games, lol" - Thinking about it this way, I'd almost want it myself!


Posted By: Evan Narcisse (March 27, 2008 at 3:20 AM)

@StephenTotilo: I think the answer to your question is "grounds for divorce".