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Posted Monday, January 14, 2008 4:18 PM

Article on Veterans Committing Murder Stirs Debate

David Botti
Over the weekend the New York Times published an in-depth look at murders committed by current war veterans in the United States.  In what the article called a "quiet phenomenon" many of these crimes were said to be in part the result of emotional trauma caused by the veterans' wartime experiences.  Through it's investigation the Times reported 121 confirmed murders committed by veterans, while also saying there were probably more.  There's no central database that keeps track of such figures. 

Here are some of the major facts presented by the Times:

-Three quarters of the 121 cases studied by the Times involved the veterans committing murder while still in the military.
-More than half of the killings involved guns.
-About one third of the victims were "spouses, girlfriends, children or other relatives."
-About one quarter of the victims were fellow service members.
-Murders committed by active-duty military personnel rose 89 percent from the pre-war period to present day (184 cases to 349) - three quarters of these cases involved Iraq and Afghanistan veterans.
-13 of the 121 veterans committed suicide after committing the murders.
-Of the 121 veterans only one was a woman.


The article approaches its statistical findings as thus:

Clearly, committing homicide is an extreme manifestation of dysfunction for returning veterans, many of whom struggle in quieter ways, with crumbling marriages, mounting debt, deepening alcohol dependence or more-minor tangles with the law.

But these killings provide a kind of echo sounding for the profound depths to which some veterans have fallen, whether at the bottom of a downward spiral or in a sudden burst of violence.


In the short amount of time since the article was published there's been a strong backlash against the paper, citing worry that it perpetuated the stigma of veterans returning home as crazed and unstable.  The first criticisms of the paper's investigation seemed to come from the article itself, as it quoted the Pentagon's reaction to the reporters' findings:

The Pentagon was given The Times’s roster of homicides. It declined to comment because, a spokesman, Lt. Col. Les Melnyk, said, the Department of Defense could not duplicate the newspaper’s research. Further, Colonel Melnyk questioned the validity of comparing prewar and wartime numbers based on news media reports, saying that the current increase might be explained by “an increase in awareness of military service by reporters since 9/11.” He also questioned the value of “lumping together different crimes such as involuntary manslaughter with first-degree homicide.”


Many online criticisms of the article are pointing to this post by Phillip Carter at Intel Dump:

...I worry about the larger narrative of this story. It seems like we've been down this road before — casting veterans in the role of crazed, violent, disturbed young men who come home from war to become homeless or criminal (or both). America needs to wrap its arms around its sons and daughters who go to war, not alienate them and push them away with this kind of narrative. We sent these men and women to fight; we have a sacred trust to ensure they're taken care of when they come home. Irresponsible journalism like this impedes that effort by giving people the wrong impression about combat veterans.


In counterpoint to such criticisms Jon Soltz of VoteVets.org characterized the Times article as "stunning" and "well researched."  Writing for the Huffington Post he used the article as a launching pad for highlighting the continued issue of PTSD among veterans.  He expressed no concern over any negative characterizations of returning vets:

The trend of our newest veterans being involved in killings on the homefront can be largely attributed to four letters -- PTSD. Our failure to properly screen for and treat this mental injury is the source of so many problems our newest veterans face -- from drug and alcohol abuse, to homelessness, to joblessness, to spousal abuse, to suicide, and now, to murders.



At the military blog Blackfive one reader's email to the website described the experience of greeting vets returning from overseas shortly before the Times article was published:

Our men and women came home last night to a happy, welcoming crowd, who were more than pleased to see them and thank them for their service to our beloved country.  And this morning, those same men and women will see a local paper with a prominent headline implying they are murdering criminals let loose in our society.


Is the New York Times guilty of cursory reporting, or does the article simply highlight a truth that's hard to swallow?  It's clear many veterans (at least those with an online presence) are outraged, but for others it's yet another wake up call that the war is never simply left on the battlefield for returning vets.  One thing is certain: the dialog over this article has already gone way past the actual focus of murder to now include the very way veterans are seen in our society.

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Posted By: sgtusmc (September 28, 2008 at 10:00 AM)

VA’s secret suicide pack 9-28-08

Peter Macdonald 465 Packersfalls rd Lee NH 03824 603-659-6217

Does the VA believe that with all the letters that I send out each day that my death will not bring this tragedy to a public forum.  How can the government and our elected official’s believe harming disabled Veterans is the right thing to do? The public should be asking why do newspapers not print my letters when they are sent to so many elected officials, judges, VA officials and the public. There is no chance of any liability suits being brought against any newspaper for printing the opinion of the people. The truth is a powerful weapon. I send a copy of these letters to the local sheriff, state police, governor every day.  These trusted officials read my letters, not for correcting the criminal acts but to see if there is a way to miss use the law to stop me with out the public learning the truth.  The truth is Judge Fauver criminally violated the constitution to help the Madbury selectmen seek and get revenge on local Madbury NH residents.  The NH supreme court covered up this case to protect their legal empire.  NH elected officials used government  powers to attempt to pressure me into stopping.  A NH U.S. Rep used federal powers to have a VA Dr Biswas file false commitment orders to stop my letters to the editor.  She used the Dover NH police by filing false complaints to get me arrested.  Fauver used (I believe) the local sheriff to arrest me to scare me to stop writing letters.  These are criminal acts committed by the government against the peace and dignity of the U.S.  The VA stopped my medical care to stop my letters to the editor.  How far will the news media go before doing there jobs of printing the truth>  I volunteer my time to help any and all since I came back in 1974 from the Vietnam Conflict and the VA believes that they can KILL me and get away with it.

A young girl today asked me “if I believe war gives McCain a better view of the U.S.”  I believe McCain has a belief in this country to place her first above and beyond any thing else in this world, including his life.  I stayed silent of what and how surviving as a U.S. Marine in some discussing inhuman (Vietnam Conflict) conditions for years believing this is how every one in the world lived.  From a head injury I have no memory of ever living in the U.S. before I came back.  I killed my first human being before I remember kissing my first “round eyed” girl. I wrote a book about my life in the Marine Corps with amnesia. ( Marine Corps Gallantry or Psychosis by Sgt Macdonald)  I live every day with the “need” to die for what I did for you.  I use my experiences and what I did because I have no conflict with giving my life to make the U.S. better and ever lasting.  This is why the VA, NH and the courts can not stop me.  This is what I believe McCain and all that gave their innocents by fighting for the U.S. came back with.  We are not better than any one else or deserve anything special.  Obama is young and has experiences that will greatly help the U.S.  The difference is Obama picked someone as VP to help him.  McCain picked some one as VP that will help the U.S.  To place the needs of the U.S. before self needs is what being there has instilled in Veterans.  You that have never been there have no possibility of conceiving.  May be the VA’s belief is my only avenue to free my memory of what I did for you and help a nation that is blinded by the freedom you fail to respect.  

Peter Macdonald Sgt USMC Semper Fi            


Posted By: mr e s vor (January 15, 2008 at 5:33 PM)

Would the following tidbit alter your perception of the Times story as well as Mr. Botti's analysis of the story?

The rate of murder perpetrated by veterans is FIVE times LESS than the rate of murder by members of the general US population in the same age range.

Perhaps the NYT and Newsweek should be asking what is it about veterans that makes them so much less likely to be murders.

One last question:  Did the NYT and NW fail to do their homework on this or did they do it but chose to ignore it?


Posted By: johnjmccarthy (January 15, 2008 at 1:50 AM)

Of all the articles being posted about combat veterans returning to the States only to becoming  statistics of extreme violence for the media and other arm chair warriors both in and out of service, there is one item on the awareness agenda that never makes it into print or anywhere else in the mainstream media.

That item is a phenomena of using deadly force in taking human life in a combat situation against a person or persons whom the combat veteran has never met, has no personal dislike for and if that same person was walking down the street anywhere in the world he or she would not be the subjected  to deadly force.  The only ingredient to such violaence is propaganda and personal fear enhanced by the adrenaline of mortal combat.

An up close and personal taking of a human life in combat has a violent reaction to the trigger puller.  Some become phsically ill and are forced to take the immediate moment to feel the horror of taking human life.  All are affected in some way or another.  As time in and around combat experiences continues, a rather calloused attitude is realized by the shooter not only for physical self preservation buth mental as well.

So what happens to the combat veteran who returns home to the land of the big PX and round door knobs?

He or she gets packs on the backs from family, friends, neighbors, strangers and fellow service members.

And then someone pisses the combat veteran off.  And how does he deal with a person who he percieves as a physical or mental threat that his "hate reflex" manifests into reviving the immediate action drill of self preservation and finallity?  He kills the person who become the object of hate, an emotion that for the most part was never attributed to his combat kills.  This "use of deadly force" is not a conscious, premeditated response to 'harrassment' but rather a quick solution to a relatively short provocation.  

Some akin this reaction as 'road rage for veterans'.  We have all heard or seen acts of 'road rage' on our streets and highways, some involving deadly force.  Many of these angry folks have never been in combat so would the combat veteran be quick to react to aggression on our nations streets and highways against persons he has never met?  Of course, since such percieved action is taken as a threat which the vet is conditioned to respond immediately.  Here we have a combination of fear, hate and quick reaction all rolled into one deadly package.  But once again, those who have never been in combat have been seen to react similarly.  This phenom is not explained in the media.