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Posted Tuesday, December 04, 2007 3:07 PM

Ron Paul, Third-Party Candidate? Why Dems Should Worry (At Least More than Republicans)

Andrew Romano

'Tis the season for speculation. Which is why I'm sure you're dying to know what sort of extravagant cerebrations, cogitations and conjectures Stumper has conjured up in the wake of this afternoon's meet-and-greet with Texas Congressman Ron Paul at Newsweek's New York offices.

Why, it just so happens that I've prepared a list. 

1) If Paul loses the Republican nomination, he will mount a third-party bid, and

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2) If Paul mounts a third-party bid, he will siphon off more votes from Democrats than Republicans.

Here's why. Asked what kind of showing he needs in Iowa and New Hampshire to stay afloat, Paul admits that he doesn't put much stock in those early nominating contests. "I need to make sure I'm not in last place," he says, laughing. "I don't have a number or a percentage. It's hard to say. But I think my campaign is less dependent on do-or-die in the first two positions, here or there. We don't look at it that way as much as, is the campaign growing? Is it still raising money? Are we getting new supporters?"

I agree that a "growing" campaign flooded with "money" and "new supporters" is a beautiful thing to behold. But Paul still needs 1,259 delegates to win the Republican nomination, and there's only one way to get 'em: by winning in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and so on. Not finishing in last place simply won't cut it.

If, that is, he's seeking only the GOP nomination. But asked why he's a Republican, circa 2007--as we did--Paul, who ran for president in 1988 as a Libertarian, expresses only the loosest of loyalties. "I guess because I was elected ten times as a Republican," he says. More laughter. "My parents were Republicans and I think that has an influence."

Yes, Paul's support may skyrocket over the next few months. He may go from five percent in the national polls to, say, 25 percent. He may win big on SuperDuper Tuesday. Anything can happen. But even the most fervent Paulite has to admit the odds are long. In all likelihood, Paul will wake up on Feb. 6 with millions in the bank (he says he's spending "carefully") and hundreds of thousands of serious supporters unwilling to let the dream die. Then what? Let those investments go to waste? Or buck up, break with a party he largely disdains and soldier on? "Would I stay in the race as an independent?" he asks, acknowledging the option. It's a question that no candidate still competing for his party's nomination can answer in the affirmative. So Paul just says "I don't forsee that"--and leaves the door (noticeably, if not wide) open.

My second prediction is, of course, contingent on the first coming true. But something Paul said early in today's Newsweek conversation convinced me that as a third-party candidate he would prove more appealing to Dems than Republicans. I walked in about five minutes late, fumbling with my notepad and tape recorder. The first thing I heard out of Paul's mouth? 

"We're probably in a more dangerous situation than any time in the history of mankind."

Hyperbole aside, Huckabee, Giuliani and Romney also say we're in danger. But unlike Paul they ascribe the threat to "Islamic jihad" or "radical jihadism" or "Islamic terrorism." The rest of the party pretty much agrees (36 percent, a clear plurality, list "Iraq" or "Terrorism/National Defense" as their top issues in the latest Pew poll).

Paul, on the other hand, blames the "globalization of the dollar." Asked for his solution, he says "we have to give up our empire"--and cites Iran as an example. "Now we know that they haven't been trying to build a nuclear weapon for four years," he says. "What if I were president tomorrow and I said, "This is wonderful news, this is what I expected all along, the Navy is coming home and we are removing sanctions?" I think that would give a boost to the dollar."

Perhaps. But in the general election, this sort of foreign policy--which is anathema to the vast majority of Republicans, post Sept. 11--would appeal to exactly two types of voters: 1) Economic libertarians like Paul who are so invested in balancing the budget that they'd close all of our military bases around the world to do so and 2) dovish, disaffected Dems who think their leadership (and, presumably, their nominee) has been too eager to follow Bush on Iraq and Iran. Figure out which group is larger and you've figured out who should be more worried--Dems or Republicans--about an Independent Paul bid.

I suspect it's the latter.

But let me know if/why you disagree. The comments are all yours. 

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Member Comments

Posted By: craig zoom (February 7, 2008 at 10:41 PM)

Dr. Ron Paul could be the american hero.  He says it like it is.  I am not an american I am legal in this country and I dont rip off the tax payers.  I have heard the truth of what america has become and is and where it is heading.  I believed america was the land of freedom and opportunity a place where their is stability a place where dreams come through but  I am afraid of the future not only for all americans but for thr entire world because if america does not stand for what it is then you can imagine what kind of future their is for the children of tommarrow.  We need another Thomas Jefferson, we need apresident that stands for the americans and not for those who are occuping it.


Posted By: berningb (February 6, 2008 at 12:44 PM)

It is obvious that Ron Paul can not win, but he has a chance to get his message out, like he has never had before.  I believe that he should continue, even if he has to continue as a third party candidate! I don't believe in everything Ron Paul stands for but I agree with more of his ideas than those of any other candidate.  I also believe in his honesty, as he has said the same things for his whole life, not blowing in in wind to get political favor.

Support him and maybe we will see some good changes in America.  Third party candidates have been able to bring about good changes in America, maybe not in their lifetimes, but their ideas have been adopted by other candidates in future elections.


Posted By: Idahorokon (February 2, 2008 at 2:06 PM)

After Super Tuesday we will still have 13 state primaries left to go all the way up to the first Tuesday in June.  There will be 612 delegates up for grabs.  It is my hope and prayers that Congressman Paul will campaign up until that point.  I want to see a brokered convention.

As a last resort The National Constitution Party may nominate Dr. Paul as its 50 state party candidate.

Nevertheless I urge you to vote for him. This campaign sends a signal to both parties that a significant number of Americans value their country’s great Constitution, that many conservatives reject wiretaps, waterboarding, and senseless wars. There is far more realism in Paul’s analysis than can be found in those Republicans who believe that Washington’s policy of borrowing billions from China to pay for the occupation of a growing number of countries is desirable, much less sustainable.

Ron Paul has been a breath of fresh air in an otherwise desultory Republican campaign. Long may he run.

Rick Martin, Buhl Idaho


 
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