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Posted Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:40 AM

What's the Deal with Those Mississippi Republicans for Hillary?

Andrew Romano

Sifting through the Mississippi exit polling data on Tuesday, I stumbled upon a pair of baffling stats: not only did 12 percent of Democratic primary voters describe themselves as Republicans, but a stunning 75 percent of these crossovers chose Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama. The numbers were shocking because of how sharply they broke with established trends. Throughout January and February, Obama routinely routed his rival among Repubs, restricting her to an average take of 31 percent. Even in the demographically similar Alabama, which voted on Super Tuesday, Republicans accounted for a measly five percent of the electorate--and only 52 percent voted for Clinton.

As it was sort of hard to imagine there were that many Mississippi Republicans suddenly crushing on Clinton, I wondered if a) animosity toward Obama accounted for the surge in the New York senator's crossover support, or b) Rush Limbaugh's request that Republicans back Clinton in order to prolong the race (and perhaps eventually propel the more polarizing figure to the nomination) was actually working.

It looks like we have a (tentative) answer. Over at National Journal, the ever-brilliant Mark Blumenthal of Pollster.com has gotten his hands on some delectable raw exit poll data that suggests a desire to stop Obama--not boost Clinton, a la Limbaugh--was the major factor motivating Clinton's crossover voters. Sorry, liberal blogosphere: the Limbaugh effect looks like a myth.***

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The numbers are pretty clear. Of the 147 Clinton Republicans surveyed by pollsters, very few seemed to actually, you know, like Clinton or consider her an inspiring or honest leader (especially compared to John McCain): 85 percent rated McCain favorably, and 58 percent had a "strongly" favorable opinion of him; 41 percent said they would be dissatisfied if Clinton were the Democratic nominee; 56 percent said Clinton has not "offered clear and detailed plans to solve the country's problems"; 62 percent said Clinton does not inspire them "about the future of the country"; and 72 percent said Clinton is not "honest and trustworthy." That said, analyzing Clinton's numbers in isolation shows only that these Republicans aren't likely to support her in the general election; it's impossible to say why they chose to support her in Mississippi.

One glance at her opponent's stats, however, and the answer is immediately apparent: they really, really don't like Obama. Here's the damage: 91 percent said Clinton is more qualified to be commander in chief, while only 3 percent said Obama is more qualified; 94 percent said Obama does not inspire them "about the future of the country"; 89 percent would be dissatisfied if Obama were the Democratic nominee"; 86 percent said Obama is not "honest and trustworthy"; 86 percent said Obama has not "offered clear and detailed plans to solve the country's problems"; and 82 percent said Clinton should not pick Obama to be her running mate if she is the nominee. For comparison's sake, consider the latest Newsweek poll: 41 percent of Republicans had a favorable opinion of Obama. That should give you a sense of how anti-Obama Clinton's Mississippi Republicans actually were. Nationwide, most Republicans like Obama more than Clinton (in the same poll, she earned an unfavorable score of 73 percent). But the few driven to vote in Mississippi's primary were hard-core Obama haters. 

The larger question, of course, is why these angry activists object to Obama. No exit poll can answer that. It may be that they consider him a more dangerous general election opponent, as some Dems have surmised; after all, a full 89 percent say they oppose his nomination, versus 41 percent for Clinton. Or it may be that there are still some racists in the Deep South.** Until we install brain-scanners in our ballot boxes, we'll probably never know.

** This was meant to be sarcastic. I'm well aware that there are racists everywhere--not just Mississippi.

*** UPDATE, 4:30 p.m.: The Limbaugh effect line was a little hasty. What I tried--and failed--to get at above is the fact that if these Republicans were motivated primarily by Limbaugh, you'd expect them to dislike Clinton more than Obama. After all, Limbaugh's whole shtik is "let's keep this race going as long as possible to bloody the eventual nominee--and, if we're lucky, it'll be Hillary, who will inspire tons of animosity and excitement in the Republican base." The whole idea presupposes that Republicans hate Clinton and don't really mind Obama; that's why she'd be easier to "cream," in Limbaugh's words. National polls (see Newsweek's above) support this view.

But the results in Mississippi show just the opposite. The Republicans who voted for Clinton don't object to her nearly as strongly as they object to Obama. To me, that implies that they cast their votes viscerally, not tactically--i.e., to register their opposition to Obama himself. Whether that's racism or not, I don't know. But I'd expect Dittoheads to display more Hillary hatred than Obama hatred; otherwise, Limbaugh's whole reason for wanting to face Clinton in the general election falls apart.

Whatever the cause of the crossover, though, many of the commenters are correct to note that the effect is the same. Here's reader David Carlisle with a smart take:

Whether or not it was Limbaugh's influence that caused it, the Republican voters were not voting for Clinton because they like her, they were voting for Clinton because they dislike Obama, see him as the presumptive nominee, and want to weaken him against McCain by prolonging his fight for the nomination. Or, alternatively, they do want to see Clinton nominated, because they think she won't fare as well in the general election. Either way, the polls make it pretty clear that a Republican vote for Hillary isn't a vote for Hillary, it's a vote for McCain and/or against Obama. Which is exactly what Rush wants. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who voted Hillary in the primary but would not vote for her in the general over McCain is following the Rush Plan (whether they heard it from him directly or not). 

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Posted By: larryluv30 (March 17, 2008 at 9:45 AM)

I NORMALLY READ COMMENTS BUT TODAY I FELT AN OBLIGATION TO RESPOND TO YOUR RIDICULOUS THOUGHTS H4PREZ...

IT IS VERY HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE A BLACK AMERICAN MALE AFTER WHAT YOU HAVE WROTE.  YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW BETTER THEN TO STEREOTYPE A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND I AM DISGUSTED AS A BLACK MALE TO HAVE READ THE REMARKS THAT YOU MADE TOWARDS OUR RACE.  WITHIN THE PAST 6 MONTHS I HAVE NOTICED PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND NATIONALITIES BECOME INTERESTED IN THIS ELECTION.   BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY IVE SEEN THEM DO THERE HOMEWORK ON OBAMA AND CLINTON.  HONESTLY AT FIRST I WAS MORE CLINTON THEN OBAMA BUT I HAVE CONVERTED AND IT WAS BC I INVESTIGATED AND IT SHOWS THAT ALOT OF OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL HAVE DONE THERE HOMEWORK AND HAVE CONVERTED.  NOW DONT GET ME WRONG THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE BLACK AND WHITE WHO ARE SOLELY VOTING ON RACE AND GENDER AND NOT MERIT AND THATS WRONG.  BUT HOW DARE U ALIENATE ONE RACE YOUR VERY OWN RACE AND BAD MOUTH THEM ESPECIALLY WHEN SO MANY ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE OUTCOME AND ONLY WANTS WHATS BEST FOR THEM AND THERE FAMILY.  AND ALTHO I DONT CONDONE VOTING FOR RACE LETS BE REAL THIS LAST ADMINSTRATION SHOWED THEY CARED NOTHING ABOUT BLACK AMERICANS SO CAN YOU REALLY FAULT THEM FOR WANTING A FACE THEY THINK THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO RELATE TO THEM AND LOOK OUT FOR THERE BEST INTEREST WHILE  IN OFFICE???? THE CANIDATE WHO WINS THE NOMINATION AS WELL AS THE PRESIDANCY SHOULD BE THE MOST QUALIFIED BUT LETS BE REAL HOW OFTEN DOES THAT HAPPEN.  YOU GIVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAY TO MUCH CREDIT AND U DONT GIVE OBAMA ENOUGH CREDIT.  HE IS VERY WELL QUALIFIED.  HAVE YOU NOT SEEN HIM IN DEBATE???  HAVE YOU NOT DONE YOUR HOMEWORK AND INVESTIGATED WHO YOU THOUGHT WAS BETTER FIT FOR THE JOB BC FROM WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IS THAT YOU HAVE NOT EVEN HAD AN OPEN MIND TO OBAMA.  YOU SOUND LIKE YOU DISLIKE OBAMA ONLY BC HE MAY KEEP CLINTON OUT OF OFFICE.  LETS BE REAL YOUR COMMENTS WERE ALL OPINION YOU HAD NO FACT AND HONESTLY THATS THE SIGNS OF AN IGNORANT PERSON.  WHATS SAD IS YOU DOWNGRADE YOUR RACE AND YOU ARE THE VERY REASON WHY WE ARE STEREOTYPED AS BEING IGNORANT.  U SAY WE HAVE JUMPED ON THE BANDWAGON BUT IT IS YOU WHO IS OBVISOUSLY ON THE BANDWAGON THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT YOU ARE ON CLINTONS BANDWAGON AND IM WONDERING WHY BC YOU GAVE NO REASON TO WHY YOU SUPPORT HER BUT WAIT LET ME GUESS YOU LIKE BILL.  WELL IF THATS THE CASE NEWS FLASH HE AINT RUNNIN FOR PRESIDENT.  YOU CLAIM THAT BLACKS ARE JUST JUMPING ON BOARD BC HES BLACK WELL WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER NATIONALITIES THAT ARE SUPPORTING HIM.  WHAT ABOUT SOUTH CAROLINA WHICH IS CONSIDERED A WHITE STATE??? CLINTON HAD TO PAY HER OWN CAMPAIGN SO SHE WOULDNT GO BROKE.  IT IS OBVIOUS WHERE ALL THE SUPPORT IS GOING.  U FAIL TO SEE THAT THIS IS A MOVEMENT OF AMERICANS WHO REALLY WANT CHANGE AND THAT THEY BELEIVE THAT THIS MAN CAN BE THAT CHANGE THAT AMERICA NEEDS SO BADLY.   YOU ARE RIGHT HAD HE NOT RAN CLINTON WOULD EASILY HAVE WON BUT WOULD SHE HAVE BEAT MCCAIN??? WHO KNOWS BUT POLLS SAY PROBABLY NOT BUT OBAMA HAS A BETTER SHOT AT WINNING THE PRESIDENCY.  SO BASICALLY IT SOUNDS LIKE THE REPUBLICANS GOT YOU RIGHT WHERE THEY WANT.   WE NEED A REAL CHANGE AND WE NEED A NEW FACE IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND AMERICANS OF ALL RACES AND AGES AGREE.  ONE LAST POINT IF OBAMA WAS PURPLE WHITE OR OF ANY OTHER DESCENT HE STILL WOULD BE WHERE HES AT TODAY AND THATS AHEAD OF CLINTON AND THATS SIMPLY BC HES MORE QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB.  

I JUST WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP MAKING THE EXCUSE FOR ANY PROFESSIONAL EDUCATED BLACK MALE THAT THE ONLY REASON WHY HES THERE IS BC OF HIS COLOR AND NOT BC OF HIS CREDENTIALS  


Posted By: BeachComber (March 17, 2008 at 8:20 AM)

H4PREZ you are more ridiculous than "Pyrade".

So you are saying the republicans have duped the porr, uneducated, ill-informed, stupid blacks into voting away Hillary's chance.

Let's not clue into the fact that the republicans in Mississippi are voting for Clinton.

Could it be, they see her as more beatable with her attackable history than Obama is with his insignificant dirt accumulation.

Let's ignore the fact that Obama, has more public service experience, military experience and a near equal voting record with Hillary and McCain.

Let us also forget that Obama can unite the dems and independants where Hillary can not.

You ignore Obama's impressive resume and reduce his success to a racial quirck.

Please, go back into your hole and do not emerge again.  You embarrass every true american.

Obama's personality and passion make him appealing to everyone.  His resume makes him a viable choice.  Lastly, he just happens to be black.

This totallity is why blacks like him.  They are not voting color.  Obama has a better resume than Clinton.  His skin color just happens to make him a historic and symbolic candidate.

If he get elected then maybe America has evolved racially and politically.

You, H4PRES are evidence that this is not the case.

You are a sad excuse for a person and you drag down the democratic party with your racial reasonings.

If anyone would say:  "Obama's healthcare ideas are not for me." or "Obama's approach to Iraq is too slow for my desires."  this would be acceptable reasons to not vote for him, but to say that you will not vote for him because a large number of black are voting for him.  Or to say the you will not vote for him because he has no experience or because he is an empty suit or because his former pastor is dispicable is unacceptable, shallow and racist.


Posted By: HILLARY4PRES09 (March 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM)

TRUTH IS THE REPUBLICANS ARE SETTING THINGS WAY THEY WANT!!!!....TRUTH.......REPUBLICANS DON'T LIKE HILLARY AND REALLY DON'T LIKE OBAMA!!!...REPUBLICANS WON'T STAND TO ALLOW A BLACK AMERICAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE...NOT YET!! IN SOUTH, THEY RATHER SEE HILLARY, EVEN THOUGH DON'T LIKE HER!! GERALDINE FERRARRO WAS CORRECT IN WHAT WAS SAID...SEE, WE AS AMERICANS CAN'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH WITHOUT CALLIMG "FOUL"....OBAMA WOULDN'T HAVE A CHANCE ON PLANET MARS IF WASN'T BLACK!!!...BLACKS ARE BETRAYING CLINTON BECAUSE HE'S BLACK....OBAMA BASICALLY RUINED HILLARYS SEASON!!!...WITHOUT A DOUBT, HILLARY WOULD BEEN NOM. FROM BEGINNING!!!...MOST BLACKS DON'T VOTE ON POLICIES BECAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN TAKE TIME TO GET INTO THE "REAL ISSUES"!!! BLACKS JUMP ON BANDWAGON BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE "WHAT EVERYONES TALKING ABOUT"!!! THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CANDIDATES ARE SAYING, AND SADLY...(MOST BLACKS DON'T CARE)...ALL THEY ARE DOING IS GOING BY WHAT THE MEDIAS SAYING AND SHOWING!! (WHICH MOST TIME VERY MISLEADING)......THE REPUBLICANS HAVE REALLY DONE THEIR HOMEWORK THIS ELECTION!!!..THEY'VE SETUP WHERE THEY MADE OBAMA A HOUSEHOLD NAME AND STRONG CONTENDER, NOW PLAYING JUST RIGHT TO HAVE HIM IN POSITION TO ONLY START SHOWING TRUE COLORS NOW TO ALLOW HILLARY WIN AT RIGHT T IMES TO PROLONG RACE SO MEDIA CAN SHOW DEMS. ARE AGAINST EACH OTHER AND DOESN'T HAVE IT TOGETHER TO HAVE REPUBLICANS RETURN TO THE WHITEHOUSE!!!...THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT OBAMA AT ALL...THAT WAS STUNT TO TAKE HILLARYS SUPPORTERS THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN HER ON AN EASY RIDE TO WHITEHOUSE....THE REPUBLICANS PLACED THAT "POTHOLE" IN THE ROAD!!!!  WE AS AMERICANS ARE TO BLIND TO SEE THIS!!!...MAKING MCCAIN SEEMING TO BE "COMMANDER N CHIEF-READY"!!!!!......(AND THIS IS COMING FROM A BLACK-AMERICAN MALE)....HILLARY WOULD HAVE BEEN WHITEHOUSE BOUND RIGHT NOW IF NO OBAMA!!!!