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Posted Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:07 PM

Clinton Threatens to Take Her 'Count Every Vote' Campaign to the Convention. Will Floridians Follow?

Andrew Romano
 
 
SUNRISE, Fla.--These days, the most popular parlor game in Washington, D.C. is "Guess Hillary Clinton's Next Gig." Will she maneuver for the vice presidency? How about New York governor? Perhaps she'll push Harry Reid from his perch atop the Senate; then again, Supreme Court justice has a nice ring to it. Sage suggestions, all of them. But after spending the day on Clinton's tour of South Florida, I have a different idea: Hillary Rodham Clinton for Secretary of the Popular Vote.
 
Think about it. The Baroness of Ballots. The Enforcer of Enfranchisement. The Czarina of Chads.
 
With no plausible path to the White House, Clinton has spent her one-day Sunshine State swing shifting gears from presidential candidate to (ahem) voting-rights activist. She's explicitly compared the ongoing Florida and Michigan dispute to the "poll taxes and literacy tests, violence and intimidation, dogs and tear gas" of the Jim Crow South--while implicitly comparing herself, the champion of "counting every vote," to abolitionists, suffragettes and civil rights martyrs. And judging by the standards she's setting on the stump, Clinton won't rest anytime soon. On May 31, the DNC's Rules Committee, in an attempt to set some sort of precedent, will likely follow in the footsteps of the Republicans and agree to seat half of each scofflaw state's delegates. Will the senator from New York be satisfied? Not likely. Even though she praised the GOP here in Sunrise for "mov[ing] quickly to resolve their problem" and damned the Dems for "allow[ing] ours to go on," Clinton also insisted that "the Democratic party... count these votes, and... count them exactly as they were cast." Half? That's half of what Hillary wants. With her demands unmet, Clinton could conceivably soldier on... indefinitely. Asked by the AP this afternoon whether she'd support Florida and Michigan if they decided to take their dispute with the DNC to the convention, Clinton responded, "Yes I will. I will, because I feel very strongly about this." Which is why I said she should serve as the next administration's (entirely made-up) Popular Vote Secretary; there's little chance that the votes will be counted "exactly as they were cast" before then--if only because delegates, not votes, determine the Democratic nominee. That in mind, I'm sure Barack Obama or John McCain would be happy to have her. After all, the abolitionists didn't give up just because of some stupid "Rules Committee." 
 
But let's assume Clinton stops short of the full kamikaze--a far likelier outcome. If the DNC follows its own rules and doesn't apportion the Florida and Michigan delegates according to the precise popular vote--they're guaranteed to award Obama a few in Michigan, for example, rather than disenfranchise the hundreds of thousands of Michiganders who intended to vote for him--what will the lasting effect of Clinton's crusade be? In his column today, my colleague Jonathan Alter suggested that, by rallying her fans around a hopeless cause, Clinton is actively delegitimizing Obama's inevitable nomination--and ensuring that Democratic divisions only get worse. "The shorthand many Clinton supporters are already taking into the summer is that she won the popular vote but had the nomination 'taken away' (as Joy Behar said on 'The View') by a man," he wrote. And Clinton herself provided some ammunition for this sort of argument this afternoon. Reminding the people of Broward County that "the candidate who got fewer votes [in 2000] was inaugurated president" (as if they needed reminding) Clinton warned that without Florida and Michigan "you will have a nominee based on 48 states"--a situation that would lead many loyalists to conclude, as Clinton put it, that "if the Democrats don't want my vote, maybe John McCain and the Republicans do." It's true that some supporters will hear Clinton's remarks as "Obama will win an incomplete election with fewer votes, so it's reasonable to jump ship"--even if that's not what the senator meant. Divisive? Try nuclear.

That said, the view from 35,000-feet is always a little blurry. Speaking with a dozen or so men and women at the Sunrise Lakes Phase 4 Clubhouse after Clinton concluded her speech, I found that their views on the Florida and Michigan contretemps (and the Democratic race overall) were a lot more nuanced than the worrywarts in Washington assume. Take Marie Dominique, a retired Sunrise resident of black, Caribbean-American descent. Asked whether she voted for Hillary in January's primary, Dominique laughed. "I'm not going to say," she said. "I'm not going to say." (At this, a friend mouthed "Obama.") But you were still interested in hearing her out today? I asked. "Absolutely, absolutely," she said. "Very interested." The thing is, despite supporting Obama, Dominique agrees with Clinton that the DNC should factor in Florida's votes. "There's a lot people did not know if those votes were going to be counted," she said. "They went without knowing, hoping they would." What's more, Dominique would even be fine with Clinton as the nominee: "I know it's not the correct thing to say"--for an Obama fan, that is--"but we have to wait until everything is counted to rule one out from the other. As a Democrat, I will vote for whoever is on the ticket." Will Clinton supporters accept a Florida and Michigan compromise? "What other choice is there," said Dominique. "It's the last option.
 
Then there's Carmen Irizarry, a 66-year-old housewife and hard-core Clintonista who'd driven an hour from Miami Beach for the event. After noticing that she'd written "Count Our Votes" on a cocktail napkin, I approached and asked whether she agreed with Clinton's message. "Oh yes," she said, "Oh yes." Born in Puerto Rico, Irizarry boasted of her Hillary-obsessed 11-year-old and her family back on the island, whom she'd convinced to volunteer for the campaign. But when I wondered aloud if it would be equitable to award Obama zero votes in Michigan, where his name wasn't on the ballot, Irizarry wouldn't go quite as far as her candidate. "I'm for Florida," she said. "Let it be the way it is. But Michigan, that's a little unfair with those 'undecideds' or whatever you call them." As we were saying goodbye, I posed a final question: Do you think Hillary can win the nomination? Irizarry paused for a moment. "Those superdelegates, I don't know," she said. "But you can't change the rules now." She touched my forearm and glanced at Clinton, who was smiling for snapshots ten feet away. "She's strong," she said. "She would've been a great president."

Of course, there are still firebreathers, naysayers and vindictive partisans on both sides of the Democratic divide. But in the end, it seems, the vast majority of the American people are eminently reasonable--even when their representatives aren't.
 
UPDATE, May 22: Worth noting, as ABC News does, that Hillary's new "100 percent or bust" position on Florida's delegation contradicts what her husband Bill said on the subject just last week:
Bill Clinton called giving Florida half its delegates -- similar to how the Republican National Committee penalized the state for holding an earlier-than-allowed contest -- an "appropriate penalty." "The Republican Party said 'OK, we'd like to win Florida in the fall so we are gonna invoke our rule, they got out of turn, we will seat their delegates as half a delegate and seat their superdelegates,' " Clinton said at a campaign event in Missoula, Mon. "That is an appropriate penalty."
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Posted By: LOU4077 (May 23, 2008 at 2:50 PM)

mkgubbon-- Hillary is the best person to be dishwasher if she fighhts on until the convention. But, I forgot, she's a fighter... HA HA. She fights because she is unwilling to accept the truth. She is a tired old dinosaur of a politician. Her lies are a function of mouth movement. she appeals to the unread and illiterate of this nation. She embodies all that is bad with politics today. She will never be president. She'll live her remaining days in CLINTON HELL.  You want to know what Clinton Hell is?  It is a world especially built for a worn old woman who had a great chance to be president and lost to a person of color and a person with a funny name and a middle name of Hussien. That doesn't add-up up.  A Clinton is taken down by a black man.  I love to watch this babbling idiot lead her cattle to the edge of the cliff.


Posted By: mkgubbon (May 23, 2008 at 2:41 PM)

Do you hear it?  It is getting louder and louder!  It is the voice of the American people, they are shouting it from coast to coast of this great nation!  The voice is no longer a whisper, it is a wave of voices and America is speaking out for their votes to be counted, for their freedom to elect the next President of The United States and that voice is each and every American standing up for what they believe is right!  They want the BEST person to be President and that person is:  HILLARY CLINTON!  If you listen it is shouting all the way to the convention floor!


Posted By: Donna1000 (May 23, 2008 at 12:02 PM)

Telling Hillary Clinton to withdraw from the race is like telling Rosa Parks to step to the back of the bus.